Why rushing - Page 2

Regeneration · 03-24-2007, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ConneXionDVA

I don't like rushing either... I like to create my base with lots of time and then take on everything with huge armies and epic battles... But rushing happens in almost every game. Why? because you harass your player a lot. You get him annoyed and 'out of the zone' as LEAF would say

Also by rushing you have a fairly good chance of destroying quite some buildings. What will eventually cause him to HAVE TO REBUILD wich loses him a lot of time! And you just keep going. HEAD START as they say my friend!

As do most people, and that's why rushing is so effective. It interrupts the plan of how the player wants things to go; so he/she has to improvise on the building plan which slows down the overall development. That's the main reason people rush.

Spectre_X · 03-24-2007, 10:12 PM

hmmm

My sig says it all here

wuzzman · 03-25-2007, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Leaf

Early game rushing in SupCom amounts generally to a territory (and mex) grab. However this by no means guarantees you a win, it makes your sprawling empire very vulnerable to a focused attack by say...those T3 bots he was teching to as you were taking over the world...

The massive improvement in economy from T1-T2/3 means that you can get away with being "cornered" aslong as you are ahead in tech, I'd like to see a bit of experimentation with turtling, fast teching and then "breaking out," with some pretty advanced gear.

people try the turtle + fast tech to T3...they always loses lol.

b4t3m4n · 03-26-2007, 11:42 PM

You have to "rush". But its not really a rush. Most people are just slow. The average top player is at t2 in 10 minutes, so if they don't field t1 units immediately there would be no t1 combat.

I do think its a bit flawed on small maps though, like winter's where a fast attack bot could luck out and kill an engineer in the very beginning and literally swing the game in their favor.

zhrance · 03-27-2007, 12:01 AM

by the way wondering about my thoughts about rushing...
wrote in the early stage of this game a blog about it.

You can find it here!

GreenCamper · 06-10-2007, 06:47 PM

One time I sent a few t1 bombers early in the game. They would have been easily brushed away, but I think that it was the other player's fault for not putting up AA. Then I just kept pumping out bombers until I won. He needs to be pretty bad to have lost to a bomber rush.

GreenCamper · 06-10-2007, 06:47 PM

And I am a noob

Draconder · 06-11-2007, 04:25 AM

If the Nazi's didn't "rush" then they wouldn't have blitz France during World War Two. I have no problems with the rush tactic personally as it is quite reasonable as it is meant to surprise your opponent with an early attack. How I stop a rush is to perfect a build order and scout early.

I like how Regeneration sums it up. People want to build up pretty bases and treat it like Sim City expecting the other player to do the same. So when that player comes in early with a rush, that player has been taken by surprise.

The rush tactic will always be a part in strategies.

Bloodless · 06-12-2007, 02:39 AM

What the heck would a war be without battles? Rushing sucks when they do it to you, and it sucks when I don't understand how they beat me, then I watch the replay and he builds 1 factory faster whiles i'm building resources or something and they know better when to switch from LABS to t1 main tanks and stuff.

03-24-2007, 10:12 PM	#12 (permalink)
Spectre_X Moderator Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Belgium Posts: 163	hmmm My sig says it all here __________________ "He who can modify his tactics in relation to his opponent and thereby succeed in winning, may be called a heaven-born captain." -Sun Tzu

03-26-2007, 11:42 PM	#14 (permalink)
b4t3m4n Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: --> Here <-- Posts: 85	You have to "rush". But its not really a rush. Most people are just slow. The average top player is at t2 in 10 minutes, so if they don't field t1 units immediately there would be no t1 combat. I do think its a bit flawed on small maps though, like winter's where a fast attack bot could luck out and kill an engineer in the very beginning and literally swing the game in their favor. __________________ hmm, what to put here

03-27-2007, 12:01 AM	#15 (permalink)
zhrance Administrator Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 357	by the way wondering about my thoughts about rushing... wrote in the early stage of this game a blog about it. You can find it here! __________________ supcom-live.com

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06-10-2007, 06:47 PM	#16 (permalink)
GreenCamper Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11	One time I sent a few t1 bombers early in the game. They would have been easily brushed away, but I think that it was the other player's fault for not putting up AA. Then I just kept pumping out bombers until I won. He needs to be pretty bad to have lost to a bomber rush.

06-10-2007, 06:47 PM	#17 (permalink)
GreenCamper Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 11	And I am a noob

06-11-2007, 04:25 AM	#18 (permalink)
Draconder Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 4	If the Nazi's didn't "rush" then they wouldn't have blitz France during World War Two. I have no problems with the rush tactic personally as it is quite reasonable as it is meant to surprise your opponent with an early attack. How I stop a rush is to perfect a build order and scout early. I like how Regeneration sums it up. People want to build up pretty bases and treat it like Sim City expecting the other player to do the same. So when that player comes in early with a rush, that player has been taken by surprise. The rush tactic will always be a part in strategies.

06-12-2007, 02:39 AM	#19 (permalink)
Bloodless Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 22	What the heck would a war be without battles? Rushing sucks when they do it to you, and it sucks when I don't understand how they beat me, then I watch the replay and he builds 1 factory faster whiles i'm building resources or something and they know better when to switch from LABS to t1 main tanks and stuff.